The Risks Of Employer Stock

February 09, 2025

One of the biggest risks lurking in people’s investments is having too much in a current or former employer’s company stock. What’s too much?

Rule of thumb

You should generally have no more than 10-15% of your investment portfolio in any single stock. It’s worth noting that an investment adviser can lose their license for recommending more than that.

More than just a stock when it’s your job

So why is this such a bad idea? What if your company stock is doing really well? Well, remember Enron, anyone? While it’s practically impossible for a well-diversified mutual fund to go to zero, that could easily happen with an individual stock. In that case, you could simultaneously be out of a job and a good bulk of your nest egg.

Now, I’m not saying your company is the next Enron. It could be perfectly managed and still run into trouble. That’s because you never know what effect a new technology, law, or competitor can have, regardless of how good a company it is.

Nor does the company have to go bankrupt to hurt your finances. Too much in an underperforming stock can drag down your overall returns, and even a well-performing stock can plummet in value just before you retire. As volatile as the stock market is as a whole, it’s nothing compared to that of an individual stock.

Why do we over-invest in our own companies?

So why do people have so much in company stock? There are two main reasons. Sometimes, it’s inadvertent and happens because you receive company stock or options as compensation. For example, your employer may use them to match your contributions to a sponsored retirement plan. Other times, it’s because people may feel more comfortable investing in the company they work for and know rather than a more diversified mutual fund they may know little about.

A general guideline is to minimize your ownership of employer stock. After all, the expected return is about the same as stocks as a whole (everyone has an argument about why their particular company will do better, just like every parent thinks their child is above average). Still, as mentioned before, the risks are more significant. That being said, there are some situations where it can make sense to have stock in your company:

When it might make sense to keep more than usual in company stock

1) You have no choice. For example, you may have restricted shares that you’re not allowed to sell. In that case, you may want to see if you can use options to hedge the risk. This can be complicated, so consider consulting with a professional investment adviser.

2) You can purchase employer stock at a discount. If you can get a 10% discount on buying your employer’s stock, that’s like getting an instant 10% return on your money. If so, you might want to take advantage of it but sell the shares as soon as possible and ensure they don’t exceed 10-15% of your portfolio.

3) Selling the stock will cause a considerable tax burden. Don’t hold on to a stock just because you don’t want to pay taxes on the sale, but if you have a particularly large position, you may want to gift it away or sell it over time. If you do the latter, you can use the same hedging strategies as above.

4) You have employer stock in a retirement account. This is a similar tax situation because if you sell the shares, you’ll pay ordinary income tax when you eventually withdraw it. However, if you keep the shares and later transfer them out in kind to a brokerage firm, you can pay a lower capital gains tax on the “net unrealized appreciation.” (You can estimate the tax benefit of doing so here.) In that case, you may want to keep some of the shares, but I’d still limit it to no more than 10-15% of your total portfolio.

5) You have a really good reason to think it’s a particularly good investment. For example, you work at a start-up that could be the proverbial next Google. It may be too small of a company for analysts to cover, so it may genuinely be a yet-to-be-discovered opportunity. In that case, go ahead and get some shares. You may strike it rich. But remember that high potential returns come with high risk so ensure you’ll still be financially okay if things don’t pan out as hoped.

The ups and downs of the stock market typically get all the media and attention. But your greatest investment risk may come from just one stock. So don’t put all your eggs in it.

What Tesla and United Can Teach Us About Investing

May 05, 2017

In another of my “grumpy old man” rants here, I’m absolutely mystified by investors and the car company Tesla. Sure, they make cool cars. Sure, they are selling directly to consumers and bypassing the traditional dealership model. Sure, every time I see one I give it a long look and think “that’s pretty awesome.” But in the midst of all of all of that, I just don’t understand how their stock price can be so high.

Tesla passed General Motors as the #1 US car company recently. Last year, Tesla sold about 76,000 cars. GM sold about 10,000,000. GM made over $9 BILLION in profits last year, while Tesla has had 2 profitable quarters…EVER! It is perhaps due to the “cool factor” that Tesla is now the #1 car company in the U.S. based on market capitalization. (Market capitalization is simply the number of shares outstanding times stock price.)

Clearly, the stock market is rewarding more than just financial results. As someone who has all but stopped using Facebook, never liked Twitter and is not a fan of social media in general, it seems that the stock market is moving away from rewarding the old school “logic and reason” of profitable companies seeing their stock price rise and companies who have yet to hit their stride from a profitability standpoint not getting much traction in the market. There are a lot of future expectations built into stock prices. This makes it hard to be an investor.

Heck, one video was able to move the stock price of United Airlines. This is a company with $9.1 billion in revenue in just the 4th quarter of 2016 and the stock price moved because of one cell phone video. This age of social media definitely has ripple effects in the investment markets. No one could have predicted in advance that United would have been hit by a wave of negativity after a cellphone video went viral or that an unprofitable car company would be worth more than General Motors.    

Picking individual stocks and outperforming the market is HARD! Most professional managers struggle to beat their respective index. If you bought Apple very early on, you’re probably a pretty happy investor. If you bought Enron or MCI WorldCom, probably not so much. All of those companies had spectacular performance at some point in their history, but only one is still in business.

That’s why it’s becoming increasingly more important to diversify your portfolio. Having a mix of stocks – small, mid-sized, large, international, emerging markets – and bonds and cash can help you avoid devastating losses like many investors experienced in 2008. Check out my blog from last week and get to know who you are as an investor and build a low cost, non-emotionally driven portfolio.

Since I started with a grumpy old man rant, I’ll end with an old phrase that we’ve all heard countless times in our lives. Don’t put all your eggs in one basket! In the investment world, it simply makes sense.

Quiz: Do You Have Landlord Potential?

March 21, 2016

[fusion_text]Online or on cable these days, you’ll find many self-described real estate experts who want to teach you their systems for finding and financing great real estate deals.  According to these self-described millionaires, people can make money in real estate if they think like an investor and have the right system. The temptations they offer are many: inflation-adjusted income, rising home prices, leverage and avoiding stock market risk.  I’m a rental property investor myself, so I know firsthand both the benefits and the challenges.

While single family homes, commercial properties and multi-family units may be good investments for some people, they are not for everyone. The truth is, rental real estate investing may seem safer than it really is. Each property investment has unique risks.  A rental real estate investment that remains vacant or results in large, unexpected maintenance costs could be financially devastating. 

Still, real estate evangelists aside, rental property investments can contribute to your income diversification, net worth and financial security if you choose wisely and at the right time. How will you know when you’re ready to be a landlord? Take this assessment to find out if you have landlord potential. Give yourself one point for each “yes” answer: 

My financial position:

____I have zero credit card and other high interest debt

____My credit score is 740 or higher.

____I have enough cash to put down 20% of the value of the property

____I have enough cash to pay for any necessary renovations

____I have enough cash to cover vacancies and maintenance on the target property for a year

____I am already contributing the maximum to my retirement plan at work ($18,000 plus $6,000 catch up contribution if 50 or older)

____I am already contributing the maximum to a Roth or Traditional IRA ($5,500 plus $1,000 catch up contribution if 50 or older)

____I am maxing out other work-sponsored employee benefits that fit my financial situation (e.g., HSA, FSA, etc.)

____I have enough other income to pay the rental property mortgage if there’s a sustained period of vacancy

____Total financial position score

Did you score 8 points or higher? Then you can move on to the next round. 

If you scored 7 or lower, you aren’t yet in a strong enough financial position to be a rental property investor. Without sufficient cash reserves, a real estate investment that turned out badly could send you into bankruptcy. If you carry balances on your credit cards, the most important investment you can make is paying them off. Before you even consider diversifying into individual rental properties, make sure you are on track to meet your retirement goals and maximize all your tax-advantaged benefits at work.

Real Estate Knowledge:

____I’ve read some basic guidebooks on rental real estate investing and landlording, such as Nolo’s First Time Landlord

____I’ve done a review of rentals in my target neighborhood and I know average rents, time on the market, crime and school statistics

____I have owned my own home for more than three years, so I have a very good idea of how much time is needed to take care of one

____I don’t yet own a home, but I plan to buy a multi-unit property and live in one unit

____I have enough time to manage the property myself

____I’ve run the numbers, and the gross monthly rent on my target property is 1% or more of the total property value

____I can afford a property manager and the investment is still profitable

____ I like to fix things and do home improvement work around the house

____I understand that one or a few properties in the same area are not a diversified investment and that means there is higher risk

____I have run income and expense projections for the property for a year, including worst case scenarios

____I have researched the pros and cons of different legal entities in my state to hold the property, such as a limited liability company

____I have spoken to a mortgage lender and am confident I’ll be approved for financing

If you scored at 8 on real estate knowledge and 8 on financial position, it looks like you have landlord potential. Happy property hunting!

If you scored 7 or lower, take some time to rethink this. Will this be a profitable investment? Do you have the time to manage the property yourself?  Are there risks you are not comfortable taking? What additional steps are needed before you move forward?

How did you do on the quiz? Do you have landlord potential? Email me at [email protected] or follow me on Twitter @cynthiameyer_FF

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Some Of The Riskiest Investments May Surprise You

July 30, 2015

One of the biggest fears people have when it comes to investing is a year like 2008, when the US stock market fell almost 40%. But as long as you didn’t bail out of stocks, you would have recovered your losses in about 5 years and then gone on to make more money. The same is true of every other market downturn since the Great Depression. If you’re worried about the real risk of permanent loss, some of the riskiest investments actually seem much safer. Here are ones that may surprise you: Continue reading “Some Of The Riskiest Investments May Surprise You”

How to Invest While Getting a Tan

June 10, 2015

June signifies summer, a time when millions of Americans flock to frolic in the sand and soak up some sun. If only investing were as easy as a day at the beach…or is it? It can be if you follow these simple guidelines: Continue reading “How to Invest While Getting a Tan”

Which History Matters?

June 05, 2015

Risk is something most people want to avoid.For that reason, and with 2008’s stock market crash and a lot of talk about today’s market being at or near all-time highs, I am seeing people re-evaluating the level of investment risk in their 401k’s. One trend that is a bit troubling is going on with young employees in their 20’s and 30’s who entered the workforce or were relatively new hires when the 2008 collapse happened. Many of these employees are shunning investment risk at perhaps the expense of their future financial security. Continue reading “Which History Matters?”

Three Investment Terms You Should Know

April 22, 2015

Have you ever noticed how different words mean different things to different people? The other day I was talking with a helpline caller who was looking for a way to invest their retirement funds such that they couldn’t lose money and could draw an income from it in the future. When I mentioned the word “annuity,” they immediately had a negative reaction as they were lead to believe all annuities were bad, which seemed ironic considering that’s exactly what they just described they were looking for. When it comes to investment terminology, not understanding the meaning of a word can be a financial mistake. Here are three investment terms that are frequently used but often misunderstood: Continue reading “Three Investment Terms You Should Know”

Do You Understand Your Advisor’s Recommendations?

April 21, 2015

I recently spoke to a friend who wanted to ask my opinion about her current financial advisor. Knowing that I have a slight addiction to chocolate, she offered me her homemade Godiva Hot Chocolate with a chocolate coated bottom for my trouble. Of course I would have offered my opinion at no cost, but who am I to turn down her homemade hot cocoa? As I listened, she started to describe how she was referred to him though a family friend so she did not feel the need to do a background check or ask him questions about how he gets paid. She took it on faith that if her family member recommended him then she would be fine. Continue reading “Do You Understand Your Advisor’s Recommendations?”

What Risks Are You Willing to Take?

January 31, 2014

One of the things that always astounds me is the behavior of people when there is money on the table. The bigger the pile, the more interesting the behavior gets at times. In my days working with clients of substantial means, sometimes their decision making would particularly puzzle me.  Continue reading “What Risks Are You Willing to Take?”

What is Risk?

August 08, 2013

For many people, reducing their risk is their top investment priority. Yet, in I’ve noticed that the word “risk” means very different things to different people. The standard definition in the financial world is the variance of returns. In other words, a risky investment is one in which the returns fluctuate a lot from year to year. But when most people use the word “risk,” I think they’re referring to the probability of their investment losing value. Continue reading “What is Risk?”

What Would Goldilocks Do?

March 16, 2012

Over the last few months, the stock market has reached levels that we have not seen since before the financial crisis/Great Recession.  Companies are reporting good earnings.  Interest rates are low.  Economists say that we are in a recovery.  Yet, so many people I talk to are still very afraid to re-enter the stock market.   I see a lot of 401(k) accounts that are still more conservatively allocated than the employee’s goals and age would indicate they could be.  My question, which I ask either to myself or to no one in particular, is “Why?”  I have my own theories and I talked with a psychologist about what her field might say about this issue. Continue reading “What Would Goldilocks Do?”

There’s More Than One Way to Become a Millionaire

February 24, 2012

I listened to a radio interview recently with a talented and enigmatic artist, David Choe, who has an amazing life story.  It’s filled with a lot of twists and turns, making a fortune gambling in Las Vegas, losing that same fortune in Vegas, some wild and erratic behavior, and most recently becoming a $100-millionaire overnight.   Here’s the cool one-in-a-billion kind of story that makes us all think “wow, that could be me one day.” Continue reading “There’s More Than One Way to Become a Millionaire”