How To Take Money Out Of Your Accounts In Retirement

September 22, 2016

Updated April, 2018

We typically spend most of our working life putting money in accounts for retirement, but how do we take them out after we retire? I recently received a question from a “long time reader, first time caller,” about how to order which accounts he will withdraw from when he retires soon. The conventional wisdom is to withdraw money first from taxable accounts, then tax-deferred accounts, and then tax-free accounts in order to allow your money to grow tax-deferred or tax-free as long as possible. However, there are a few other things you might want to consider too:

Will you need to purchase health insurance before you’re eligible for Medicare at 65? If so, your eligibility for subsidies under the Affordable Care Act is partly based on your taxable income. In that case, you might want to tap money that’s already been taxed like savings accounts and money that’s tax-free like Roth accounts to maximize your health insurance subsidy (but not so low that you end up on Medicaid instead). You can use this calculator to estimate what that amount would be.

Are you collecting Social Security yet? Withdrawing from tax-free Roth accounts can also reduce the taxes on your Social Security. That’s because the amount of your Social Security that’s taxable (either 0, 50%, or 85%) depends on your overall taxable income plus nontaxable interest (like muni bonds) but not tax-free Roth withdrawals.

How can you minimize your tax rate? First, you’ll want to withdraw (or convert to a Roth) at least about $12k a year from your pre-tax accounts because the standard deduction makes that income tax-free. If you have other deductions, you may be able to have even more tax-free income. Then take a look at the tax brackets and see how much income you can withdraw before going into a higher bracket.

For example, a married couple’s first $19,050 of taxable income is only taxed at 10%, with the next $58,350 is taxed at 12% according to 2018 tax brackets. Any long term capital gains at those levels are taxed at 0%. If you’re about to go into a higher bracket, you may want to use tax-free income to avoid those higher rates. Just keep in mind that pensions and taxable Social Security (see above) will also count as income in determining your tax bracket.

How do you put it all together? Your withdrawal strategy may change and adjust based on the situation. You may tap into savings accounts (including your HSA) and sell taxable investments to maximize your health insurance credits until 65. Then you may withdraw from taxable accounts until you collect Social Security benefits at age 70, which draws down your required minimums at 70 1/2 while maximizing your Social Security payment. At that point, you can continue withdrawing from your taxable accounts to fill in the lower tax brackets and then use tax-free accounts to avoid the next tax bracket.

Of course, this all assumes that you have investments in multiple types of tax accounts. Otherwise, it doesn’t really apply to you. But if you do, you might want to consult with a qualified and unbiased financial planner to help you sort it out and come up with the right strategy. If your employer offers that as a free benefit, it might be a good place to start.

 

Quiz: Are You Underearning?

May 23, 2016

Are you constantly scrambling to make ends meet? While there can be many causes to budget problems, including sudden unemployment, overspending and big credit card or student loan balances, one frequently overlooked trouble spot is how much you earn. “Underearning” is the persistent state of earning less money than you are capable of earning, given your education, experience and the economic environment, in a way that negatively affects your financial health.

What’s the difference between underearning and living the simple life…or underearning and choosing to work in a lower paying non-profit or public service job in your field? The key is whether or not you are earning as much money as you need to meet basic living expenses. Underearning is not the same as poverty, although persistent underearning can lead to poverty. Underearning is a type of self-induced deprivation of financial wellbeing.

It is not dependent on profession or income. The medical school graduate who takes a job making less than she needs to pay her rent and student loans is underearning. People can appear financially successful, but still live paycheck to paycheck with a negative net worth. If you can meet all your basic expenses (housing, food, transportation, clothing, health insurance, etc.), save enough for retirement, and have some money left over for enjoying life now without going into debt, you aren’t underearning, even if you don’t make a high wage.

Underearning behavior is a symptom of an underlying belief system. It generally comes from a personal sense of unworthiness and/or lack of self regard, which manifests as an inability or unwillingness to seek appropriate compensation for one’s efforts. Underearning can include active activities such as the PhD in computer science who works in the bicycle shop and lives at home with his parents or the mother who spends all her time volunteering at her children’s’ private school while building up a huge credit card balance paying the tuition.

It can also include passive activities such as failing to turn in rebates after purchases, forgetting to submit benefits-related expenses for reimbursement, or paying excessive brokerage fees for investment management – areas where many busy professionals fail to fully maximize. According to Barbara Stanny, author of Overcoming Underearning: a Five Step Plan to Lead a Richer Life, those who underearn, “devalue themselves, giving away their time, knowledge, skills.” The good news is that because underearning involves some level of self-sabotage, bringing self-awareness and compassion to changing behaviors that deflect money can lead to a full turnaround.

Do you think you might be underearning? Take the quiz below to find out. Rate your answer to each question by assessing how often you engage in that behavior:

Never                   0 points

Rarely                   1 point

Often                    2 points

Almost Always     3 points

____I regularly accept lower-paying work which does not reflect my education and experience.

____I only work part time.

____I don’t think employee benefits are an important part of my compensation.

____I work all the time but I never seem to have enough money.

____I spend most of my week volunteering for causes and organizations.

____I believe most people who have money are greedy.

____I believe most people who have money are unethical.

____I resent people who have money.

____I believe that people who have money only have it because they are lucky.

____I don’t think my skills are worth much.

____I have never asked for a raise.

____I don’t make as much money as I think is fair.

____I feel poor.

____I would be embarrassed to tell my friends how much I really make.

____My income does not cover all my basic needs (food, clothing, shelter, transportation, healthcare).

____I do not save for retirement.

____I have trouble maintaining an emergency fund.

____I only pay the minimum payments on my credit cards and don’t pay them off.

____My income is not enough for me to pay down my debts.

____My student loans are in forbearance or on an income-based repayment plan.

____I incur library fines for not returning books or movies on time.

____I forget to use available coupons or discounts for things I usually purchase.

____I forget to submit rebates or expense reimbursements for which I am eligible.

____My salary is less than 90% of the median salary for those in my profession.

____If I am self-employed, my business is losing money.

____If I own a business, I do not pay myself a sufficient salary.

____Once I find a new job, I want to leave it soon.

____I believe that if I spend money on myself, no more will come in to replace it.

____I believe I will never have enough money.

____I have an advanced degree (e.g., graduate school or professional) but generally earn less than the median U.S. income (about $54,000 for 2014).

____Total Score

How did you do?

0 – 15 points                      Underearning is not a big problem. Congratulations!

16 – 35 points                    Some underearning behavior or limiting beliefs around money

36 – 55 points                   Underearning behavior contributing to financial challenges

55 points or higher           Serious underearning limiting financial wellness

Is underearning something you would like to address? In next week’s post, I’ll write about steps people can take to begin challenge limiting financial beliefs and earn an income that corresponds to their capabilities.  In the meantime, start with the two books listed above. Send me your thoughts or questions at [email protected] and follow me on Twitter @cynthiameyer_FF.

 

Climbing The Debt Mountain

May 29, 2015

One of the things I love to see is a different perspective. When we hire a new financial planner on our team, they offer a lot of “new employee energy,” a fresh set of eyes and a different life experience to the table. Fortunately, we recently hired Cynthia Meyer as a part of our team and she sent me this blog post about her view on a very common type of call that we see on our Financial Helpline.  I like her approach… Continue reading “Climbing The Debt Mountain”

Are You in a Cash Flow Drought?

July 11, 2014

Living on the East Coast but working for a California based company, I get to hear about things that are newsworthy on both coasts. One of the more recent news items that I talked about with my CA coworkers was the drought that they are currently experiencing.  This article talks about the drought and what it has done to the price of water in California. Continue reading “Are You in a Cash Flow Drought?”

What ISN’T In Your Credit Score?

December 20, 2013

I have talked to a lot of people about their credit scores being low and their desire to increase their score.  Understanding the components of the credit score is a conversation that is important, but equally important is understanding what isn’t in your credit score.  I have heard a lot of statements like “I have heard that my credit score includes X,” with X being a number of things that aren’t actually a part of the credit score.  So…what things aren’t included in your credit score that many people assume are included? Continue reading “What ISN’T In Your Credit Score?”

How to Earn Income From Home

February 29, 2012

My wife made a comment the other day about how much food our household is going through lately.  As some of you may know, we have four children, including three boys, the oldest of which is turning 12 in April.  Like all growing families, as the children get bigger, so do their appetites and this has caused my wife to question whether or not she should take on work as a way of bringing in a little extra income to help support the increases in the grocery bill.  Continue reading “How to Earn Income From Home”